diff --git a/public/app/features/alerting/unified/rule-editor/formDefaults.ts b/public/app/features/alerting/unified/rule-editor/formDefaults.ts
index b7b9c8c48b0..1dab9a35fa6 100644
--- a/public/app/features/alerting/unified/rule-editor/formDefaults.ts
+++ b/public/app/features/alerting/unified/rule-editor/formDefaults.ts
@@ -34,9 +34,12 @@ const KEEP_FIRING_FOR_DEFAULT = '0s';
 export const DEFAULT_GROUP_EVALUATION_INTERVAL = formatPrometheusDuration(
   clamp(GROUP_EVALUATION_MIN_INTERVAL_MS, GROUP_EVALUATION_INTERVAL_LOWER_BOUND, GROUP_EVALUATION_INTERVAL_UPPER_BOUND)
 );
-export const getDefaultFormValues = (): RuleFormValues => {
+export const getDefaultFormValues = (ruleType?: RuleFormType): RuleFormValues => {
   const { canCreateGrafanaRules, canCreateCloudRules } = getRulesAccess();
   const type = (() => {
+    if (ruleType === RuleFormType.grafanaRecording) {
+      return RuleFormType.grafanaRecording;
+    }
     if (canCreateGrafanaRules) {
       return RuleFormType.grafana;
     }
@@ -70,7 +73,7 @@ export const getDefaultFormValues = (): RuleFormValues => {
     overrideGrouping: false,
     overrideTimings: false,
     muteTimeIntervals: [],
-    editorSettings: getDefaultEditorSettings(),
+    editorSettings: getDefaultEditorSettings(ruleType),
     targetDatasourceUid: config.unifiedAlerting?.defaultRecordingRulesTargetDatasourceUID,
 
     // cortex / loki
@@ -88,7 +91,11 @@ export const getDefautManualRouting = () => {
   return manualRouting !== 'false';
 };
 
-function getDefaultEditorSettings() {
+function getDefaultEditorSettings(ruleType?: RuleFormType) {
+  if (ruleType === RuleFormType.grafanaRecording) {
+    return undefined;
+  }
+
   const editorSettingsEnabled = config.featureToggles.alertingQueryAndExpressionsStepMode ?? false;
   if (!editorSettingsEnabled) {
     return undefined;
@@ -109,7 +116,7 @@ export function formValuesFromQueryParams(ruleDefinition: string, type: RuleForm
     ruleFromQueryParams = JSON.parse(ruleDefinition);
   } catch (err) {
     return {
-      ...getDefaultFormValues(),
+      ...getDefaultFormValues(type),
       queries: getDefaultQueries(),
     };
   }
@@ -117,7 +124,7 @@ export function formValuesFromQueryParams(ruleDefinition: string, type: RuleForm
   return setQueryEditorSettings(
     setInstantOrRange(
       revealHiddenQueries({
-        ...getDefaultFormValues(),
+        ...getDefaultFormValues(type),
         ...ruleFromQueryParams,
         annotations: normalizeDefaultAnnotations(ruleFromQueryParams.annotations ?? []),
         queries: ruleFromQueryParams.queries ?? getDefaultQueries(),
@@ -130,7 +137,7 @@ export function formValuesFromQueryParams(ruleDefinition: string, type: RuleForm
 
 export function formValuesFromPrefill(rule: Partial<RuleFormValues>): RuleFormValues {
   return revealHiddenQueries({
-    ...getDefaultFormValues(),
+    ...getDefaultFormValues(rule.type),
     ...rule,
   });
 }
@@ -141,7 +148,7 @@ export function formValuesFromExistingRule(rule: RuleWithLocation<RulerRuleDTO>)
 
 export function defaultFormValuesForRuleType(ruleType: RuleFormType): RuleFormValues {
   return {
-    ...getDefaultFormValues(),
+    ...getDefaultFormValues(ruleType),
     condition: 'C',
     queries: getDefaultQueries(isGrafanaRecordingRuleByType(ruleType)),
     type: ruleType,
diff --git a/public/app/features/alerting/unified/utils/rule-form.ts b/public/app/features/alerting/unified/utils/rule-form.ts
index c4208d61f52..42e2d235007 100644
--- a/public/app/features/alerting/unified/utils/rule-form.ts
+++ b/public/app/features/alerting/unified/utils/rule-form.ts
@@ -277,11 +277,12 @@ function getEditorSettingsFromDTO(ga: GrafanaRuleDefinition) {
 
 export function rulerRuleToFormValues(ruleWithLocation: RuleWithLocation): RuleFormValues {
   const { ruleSourceName, namespace, group, rule } = ruleWithLocation;
+  const isGrafanaRecordingRule = rulerRuleType.grafana.recordingRule(rule);
 
-  const defaultFormValues = getDefaultFormValues();
+  const defaultFormValues = getDefaultFormValues(isGrafanaRecordingRule ? RuleFormType.grafanaRecording : undefined);
   if (isGrafanaRulesSource(ruleSourceName)) {
     // GRAFANA-MANAGED RULES
-    if (rulerRuleType.grafana.recordingRule(rule)) {
+    if (isGrafanaRecordingRule) {
       // grafana recording rule
       const ga = rule.grafana_alert;
       return {
@@ -382,7 +383,8 @@ export function rulerRuleToFormValues(ruleWithLocation: RuleWithLocation): RuleF
 }
 
 export function grafanaRuleDtoToFormValues(rule: RulerGrafanaRuleDTO, namespace: string): RuleFormValues {
-  const defaultFormValues = getDefaultFormValues();
+  const isGrafanaRecordingRule = rulerRuleType.grafana.recordingRule(rule);
+  const defaultFormValues = getDefaultFormValues(isGrafanaRecordingRule ? RuleFormType.grafanaRecording : undefined);
 
   const ga = rule.grafana_alert;
   const duration = rule.for;